With the new Konova slider on the market the 717AH fluid head has become a popular accessory to complete the set. Recently there seems to be a small price drop in the WF717A Tripod + Fluid Head via Amazon. Unlike the bowl mount Fluid head, the one on the WF717A (this one) can be removed and used on your Konova slider, SpiderTrax Skate dolly, or other projects and you'll still have a very lightweight aluminum tripod + bag. Should be a standard 3/8" threaded mount.


Heavy Duty Video Tripod Fluid Drag Head Kits WF717A
jesco
Thanks. I am new to tripods. Pardon the simple questions:
For slider set up, would you recommend:
TRIPOD: recommended 9901 or 717?
FLUID HEAD: 717 (comes with 717 tripod, I believe?)
https://www.amazon.com/ePhoto-WF717-Professional-Camcorder-Tripod/dp/B0035HKH9Y
...or purchase separately if using 9901
BALLHEAD: https://www.amazon.com/Release-Tripod-Manfroto-Fancier-6664H/dp/B0047FJDXE
Should the ballhead fit on the tripod without the slider? Mine does not seem too.
Thanks, J
Emm
Post author@jesco - A ball head is mainly for still photos or to get angles with your camera. Video fluid heads can only pan left/right and tilt up/down. Ball Heads can tilt in various angles. If you use sliders, you may end up wanting both types of heads.
jesco
Hello, I just bought the FT9901 tripod as recommended here: httpss://cheesycam.com/slider-tips-and-mounting-solutions/ Would you recommend the 717AH fluid head with that tripod (for slider set up) or is the above 717 tripod a better fit?
When I bought the FT9901 tripod, I also ordered this ball head... should I return it and get the 717 fluid head? https://www.amazon.com/Release-Tripod-Manfroto-Fancier-6664H/dp/B0047FJDXE
(It doesn't seem to fit on the FT9901)
THANKS!
Emm
Post author@Bdav - I'm not very clear on all the differences. They seem about the same as far as the fluid head goes.
Bdav
Hey Emm,
I'm looking for a tripod to do video work with my GH2. Do you suggest the 717a, 717ah, or the 718?
Emm
Post author@Kelly - I guess they got wiped out too. LOL
Kelly
Holy $%#@. I clicked on that link to pick up that tripod as a backup and Amazon is selling it for $600 now!!!!!
Out West
Yea, I have actually looked at that Head. I was attracted to the 717AH Video Fluid Head you reviewed. Seemed a little more versatile with sliders and such than the Manfrottos. Looked like you had some trouble with the adjustment knobs on the sliders and dollies. Odds are the Manfrotto is a better quality Head but it may lack some the versatility of the717AH Head, not to mention the cost.
Any Thoughts?
BTW just got my LCD Viewfinder you reviewed today. Awesome find, love it!
Emm
Post author@Out West - Can't go wrong with Manfrotto tripods. If you could afford a more expensive tripod, maybe there's a good deal with a 701HDV bundle? Something like Manfrotto 701HDV,547B Video Tripod Kit with 547B Tripod and 710HDV Video Head (Black)
Out West
Hey Emm, quick thanks for this site...most informative!
Id like to have your take on this setup.
The head you recommend.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HNS6S0?ie=UTF8&tag=pixacomcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003HNS6S0
And the Manfrotto 05XPRO
https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-055XPROB-Tripod-Legs-Black/dp/B000UMX7FI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Dont mind spending the little extra or the weight. (I started shooting Video back on 3/4 =) ).
Im just starting to mess with video on my T2i and want to get a tripod I can really grow into without breaking the bank to do photos and video. Is the Combo Head and Sticks as good in your opinion than this setup? Thanks!
Emm
Post authorI hear the Velbon DV-7000 is mostly plastic. Never tried it before.
POWSKII
What about Velbon DV-7000 tripod ? not expensive !
Have you tried ?
sturdy enough for a slider (igus, konova)?
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SL
Considering this tripod and all the other 717-ish: I've been trying to find a chinese distribution channel (not wholesale, though) to czech republic (EU) and it seems to me there is NONE.. How come you can buy a chinese tripod+head for $129 in the US, while the same thing from china would cost you $230-250, making the $60-90 postage from the US based Ebay sellers to my country actually cheaper?:)) It seems to me that every other item from china ships free, but it's somehow different with thee tripods.. And the rebranded ones sold in Eourope go for $280 + international postage..
/rant
Anyone know of a chinese seller I could get these from? (for prices at least close to the $129 tag)
Emm
Post author@Daniel - The one you're commenting on in this article is both a fluid head and a tripod. Just get the one in this article. That's all you need.
Daniel
Emm,
Which tripod can I use that works with the WF717A and I can use to put a slider on top of?
Thanks
Emm
Post author@Daniel - The WF717A fluid head will not work on that tripod. That tripod is for a 'bowl mount' which comes with it's own fluid head. If you're trying to put together a stand for a Slider, then YES you would need both. The Bowl mount can be the stand for the slider, and you'll need a Fluid head on top of the slider.
Daniel
Emm,
So, I'd have to get the WF717A and these legs separately then I'm set? Are these the correct links?
Weifeng 717AH Fluid Head | $74.99 Amazon
ePhoto Professional Video Camera Fluid Drag Tripod Head by ePhoto INC 717AH
Heavy Duty Tripod with Fluid Drag Pan Head FT9901SLV | $129.99 Amazon
ePhoto Professional Heavy Duty 75mm Video Camera Tripod with Fluid Drag Pan Head by ePhotoINC FT9901SLV
Thank you!
Emm
Post author@Daniel - You would need the WF717A because it is not a 'bowl mount'.
Daniel
Hi Emm,
I'm confused as to what tripod to get so I can unscrew the fluid head and place the slider underneath on the tripod?
Heavy Duty Tripod with Fluid Drag Pan Head | $129.99 Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/ePhoto-Professional-Camera-ePhotoINC-FT9901SLV/dp/B0036NSY5Q
OR this one?
ePhoto Pro Heavy Duty Video Tripod Fluid Drag Head Kits WF717A by ePhoto | $129.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HNJ5H
Thanks for your help!
allen
I bought this tripod, I love this tripod.
John
https://cgi.ebay.com/EI717-WF717-Complete-Pro-Video-Photo-Tripod-Head-Kit-/160486845834?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255dc2ed8a#ht_2989wt_1137
I did find this. It looks to be pretty much the same thing, only I'm worried about it being to heavy.
John
Yeah, unfortunately no WF717A tripods ship to Japan. The only seller on Ebay only ships to the US and Canada.
Emm
Post author@John - This WF717A is actually pretty lightweight, great for a DSLR setup.
John
I'm shooting a documentary in april, and I will be on the run. Light weight would be better.
Emm
Post author@John - The legs for a 701HDV needs to be the standard 3/8" mount. I bought some carbon sticks a long time ago, but they are more for traveling. They work perfectly for just the camera and lens, but not something I would recommend for a slider. Are you looking for lightweight or heavy duty?
John
Thank you for the reply Emm. I still need a tripod, but that head looks really nice. I went shopping for tripods today at a department store, and found some decent ones for about a 150 bucks, but I'm sure none as good as value as you can find online.
Any suggestion for legs for the 701HDV?
Thanks again. I love your site.
Emm
Post author@John - That looks similar to the one I have. It's a bowl mount, so don't expect to remove the head for other projects. Other than that it works good. If you really have to pay extra just for a tripod, have you looked into the 701HDV head? I hear it's more available overseas and might be cheaper than paying all the shipping fees from here.
John
Emm,
Thank you for the post. I'm having trouble finding a tripod that will ship to Japan.
I did find this:
https://cgi.ebay.com/EI717-WF717-Complete-Pro-Video-Photo-Tripod-Head-Kit-/160486845834?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255dc2ed8a#ht_2989wt_1137
Is this the same as the 717a? will this work with the slider? I have to admit shopping for tripods has me a bit confused.
Thanks.
Brandon
They must have put this thing on tight! So hard to screw off!
Emm
Post author@Brandon - There's three tiny screws underneath. Once you back those out, you can unscrew the entire head (counter-clockwise). Just gotta lock down the panning and then unscrew it.
Brandon
I just bought it and I love it! Very sturdy and nice build! The fancier 717A is the same thing right? cause thats what I got with it. I am also wondering how to remove the head!
Brandon
Bought this, my first fluid head and legs
Emm
Post author@Leo Telles - Yes, just like hanging sandbags, you add weight to your base, it can support a heavier top load without tipping over.
Leo Telles
So, as you said to @jordan, with a backpack in the middle, should avoid the "tip"? Because i need a lightweight to go to wedding shooting but a 'solid' one to work at my home projects, it might handle the slider with a counter weight in the middle?
RL
Hi Emm~
Do you have another choice of tripod best for the Konova slider instead of the FT9901SLV
I would love to get that, but the suppliers does not ship to overseas, except the US
Thanks!
Trevor
This seems like a great deal! I want to buy these right now, but I can't seem to figure out the max height, which is important to me because I'm a tall dude (6 ft 4 in). Any insight? Thanks!
alwanneroy
Why isn't there a version like what paolo showed but with the head regular mount ?
manuele
i think the WF-718 is even better
https://cgi.ebay.com/Fancier-WF-718-PRO-Video-Camera-Tripod-with-Fluid-Head-/360273386336?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_TripodsSupports&hash=item53e1f79b60#ht_2951wt_944
* Fluid damping system ensures smooth pan and tilt camera movements
* Built-in bubble spirit level for accurate horizontal level setting
* Versatile -85°to +90°tilt range, 360°pan range
* Independent Leg Spread
* Quick release tripod shoe mount. Accepts 1/4" and 3/8" threads
* Max operating height 1710mm
* Min operating height 220mm
* Folded height 680mm
* Net weight 3400g
* Max load capacity 9.0kg
Paolo
Gotcha!
Thanks-
Emm
Post author@Paolo - If you only require a tripod yes that's a solid tripod, but the bowl mount does not make it easy to use the fluid head elsewhere.
Paolo
I think this is actually a better offering.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360305764080&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2506wt_1012
While it might be a little on the heavy side, it has the same, or very similar, fluid head and it's almost a full size tripod that can reach 75 inches in height so for a few bucks more you can have a solid choice.
Emm
Post author@alwanneroy - If you're only looking for something to support a slider, then just get the WF717 with bowl mount. This is just a recommendation for a fluid head + tripod legs that are perfect for lightweight video camera use and traveling.
alwanneroy
to me those legs here feels very weak and light. Those feels great it's just not the right mount
https://www.amazon.com/ePhoto-Professional-Camcorder-Tripod-WF717/dp/B0035HKH9Y/
Is there anything similar ?
Emm
Post author@alwanneroy - Wow, without a bag, you'd need a pretty heavy set of legs. I have another tripod in the studio that I use, let me check that model number. It's really really heavy.
alwanneroy
Emm,
So what if I want switch the head from a tripod to the slider and to use the same tripod for both (fluid head and slider )? without the bag under.
What would you recommend ? and what would you recommend with the manfrotto 501hdv also ?
Thanks a lot for your blog it's awesome it's always helping me so much !!!!
Emm
Post author@Jordan - It does not have the bowl head.
Jordan
Does this model have the bowl head? Didn't see it on the description.
j hanna
I sold my old fluid head and legs very similar to these a year ago for $300...$130 is an awesome price, especially since the head alone on ebay is 90bucks.
woo! ordered mine.
Mike
Is this the same fluid head for cheaper? https://www.amazon.com/DMKFoto-Professional-Hydraulic-Fluid-Video
Emm
Post author@Brendan - The legs are weaker. Great for DSLR work, but too light for a heavy slider. You could weigh down the tripod using the bag hook. That might help.
Emm
Post author@Hello Stranger - That will work under the slider, but you can't take the bowl mount head off and place it on the slider. It's a different type of mount compared to the one in this article.
Polish Dan
Thanks! was about to buy this on ebay at $150!! and i have amazon prime too! awesome!!!!!!
Rodney
Can you remove the ball on the other version to use the head with a slider? I like the idea of having a complete tripod and access to a head for my slider. The 717 with a ball looks better. Thanks. My Konova slider will be here soon.
Hello Stranger
https://www.amazon.com/ePhoto-Professional-Camcorder-Tripod-WF717/dp/B0035HKH9Y/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
what about this one Emm ?
That would work with the koniva ?
and it's only 20 bucks more 🙂
Brendan
Emm,
Is this essentially what you told us to substitute out with these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036NSY5Q
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003HNS6S0
Or are these legs weaker as you just told Jordan?
Tan
Would these legs have the same tipping issue with the indisliderMINI?
Jordan
Hmmm, Ok, but the head would be good, right?
Armand
Nice, I've actually been waiting for this exact model to drop a bit in price.
I bought the WF717, and even before following the advice & removing the stock gunk and replacing I was very happy with the smooth panning.
The drawback is, that while it's solid, its heavy & the bowl mount can't be used elsewhere.
This is the best of both worlds, I need portable sticks, and this head is like the swiss knife 'round these parts.
Thanks!
Emm
Post author@Jordan - These legs are very light weight. would be great for traveling and just dslr use, but if you push the slider too far, it would tip. of course with the bag hook in the middle you can weigh it down with a backpack. So it might work.
Jordan
Hi Emm,
would you say this setup is a solid and complete support solution for the Konova slider?
Thanks,
Jordan